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Doctor Who XXXV/9.3: Under the Lake

October 3rd, 2015 (09:59 pm)

For a change this week, I thought I'd make notes during the episode and then transcribe them with minimal tidying-up or comment below. It's not quite a liveblog:

Corporate interest: Silence in the Library, The Almost People

Army incompetence [an old Doctor Who trope from the third Doctor's day] (and the Faslane security/safety leak?)

Loch Ness Monster [in mural] - Zygon foreshadowing?

When is the last time we just saw Clara being adventurous and exploring things? Ever?

Great when [illegible] set. TARDIS translation issue.

Doctor's adventure running at a different trajectory [to the humans he is with]?

Mythical oil reserves...

Swipe at [human] culture

Why is this man still talking? = You just lost the right.... [The Long Game - no, sorry, The Parting of the Ways (thanks, thanatos_kalosDoctor Who</i>]

Virtual reality as an everyday tool - contemporary [cutting-edge 2015 'dressed' as 2119]

Tomb is a plain sarcophagus - fitting for something found in a church - showing off the architectural affinities of Michael Pickwoad.

Words as magnets - electromagnetic field - power of words [The Shakespeare Code - theory of ideas as replicating memes]

Peter Andre - Strictly Come Dancing cross-promotion! [except this was recorded back in January - but still, when did they know?]

Can't the Doctor bring the TARDIS to them using his 'sonic' glasses?

Two new temporary companions!

Great final anticipated image of the Doctor as ghost [eyes hollowed out and view through eyes recalls The Empty Child]

Most of the episode takes place on my 149th birthday, too. I doubt this is of any significance beyond personal amusement.

Also published at https://theeventlibrary.wordpress.com/2015/10/03/doctor-who-xxv9-3-under-the-lake/

Also posted at http://sir-guinglain.dreamwidth.org/792314.html.

Comments

Posted by: daniel_saunders (daniel_saunders)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2015 10:20 pm (UTC)
Leekley

TARDIS translation issue.

The Impossible Planet. Also The Stone of Blood (where Tom announces that he can't read the script...). Also a slightly different translation issue in The Leisure Hive (The Creature from the Pit might also count).

Most of the episode takes place on my 149th birthday, too. I doubt this is of any significance beyond personal amusement.

Doctor Who has never been broadcast on my birthday, so far as I am aware, but three stories are partly set on it (The War Machines, The Faceless Ones, The Evil of the Daleks).

I really enjoyed this and in a less complicated way than the last two weeks. I'm glad the Doctor's arrogance and rudeness has been toned down a little so he's just eccentric rather than irritating. Looking forward to next week!

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 4th, 2015 01:17 pm (UTC)
MummyIcon

It's illustrative of the way I read Doctor Who that I was immediately looking backward to earlier stories, isn't it? I didn't note that I found its storytelling very succinct compared to the ellipses of the previous fortnight, and on rewatch this was more clear - there was so much information that I'd not interpreted properly when it first appeared, such as the impressions made by the untranslatable script and the way the shots emphasised the eye scanning it and allowing the glyphs to burn their way through the window on to the soul.

Edited at 2015-10-04 01:21 pm (UTC)

Posted by: daniel_saunders (daniel_saunders)
Posted at: October 4th, 2015 02:13 pm (UTC)

I think perhaps your two points are related; it felt like a slightly old-fashioned story. I suppose any base-under-siege story is going to feel like it dates from a time when there were a limited number of sets they could get into Lime Grove studios for an episode and the storytelling had to be very focused. But even so, it was very concerned with constantly moving the plot forward, with few digressions; character moments came as part of the plot.

Posted by: heliopausa (heliopausa)
Posted at: October 7th, 2015 07:50 am (UTC)

The eye-scanning felt to me like a call-back to the previous episode,when Clara thought she was looking at something, but in reality it was Missy allowing the watcher to scan Clara.

Edited at 2015-10-07 08:13 am (UTC)

Posted by: cynthia2015 (cynthia2015)
Posted at: October 6th, 2015 11:40 am (UTC)

"I'm glad the Doctor's arrogance and rudeness has been toned down a little so he's just eccentric rather than irritating."

Are you referring to how the Twelfth Doctor is now compared to series 8?.

Posted by: daniel_saunders (daniel_saunders)
Posted at: October 6th, 2015 06:47 pm (UTC)
Leekley

Yes. I found him too rude in the previous series. I don't mind my Doctors a bit vain, but not so much that it looks like their picking fights with people for no reason.

Posted by: cynthia2015 (cynthia2015)
Posted at: October 7th, 2015 03:34 am (UTC)

OK. I see what you mean. To me the Doctor is always going to be rude. Despite hanging around humans and being a "genius", he can't handle social interaction. My two reasons why I think Twelve is so vastly different to his previous incarnation's

- Selected memory lost
- His trying to be more honest. No more empty promises.

He certainly got on the defensive with Danny, but I think it wasn't all his fault. Danny was quite hostile in return. The time I thought his rudeness was funny was when he meet Courtney Woods. At least it was a change from the "flirting vibe" of Eleven and Ten.

Hopefully he won't leave all the "caring" to Clara from now on.

Edited at 2015-10-08 07:07 am (UTC)

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