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Doctor Who XXXV/9.5: The Girl Who Died

October 18th, 2015 (12:00 am)

An lengthy and probably overlong commentary-review in another place.

Also posted at http://sir-guinglain.dreamwidth.org/2015/10/18/the-girl-who-died.html.

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Posted by: daniel_saunders (daniel_saunders)
Posted at: October 18th, 2015 12:27 pm (UTC)
Leekley

What was Russell T Davies' theory about Caecillius and Frobisher?

I think you're wrong that this was the first 'happy' story since Capaldi took over - I'd mention Robot of Sherwood and arguably Mummy on the Orient Express and In the Forest of the Night, even though the latter two were not 'comedy' episodes per se. Still, I enjoyed it a lot and am intrigued by where Ashildr's story is going; certainly the trailer for next week and the DWM preview suggest she still maintains Viking mores regarding other people's property...

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 18th, 2015 12:43 pm (UTC)

Yes, you're right, of course. I tend to black out Robot of Sherwood because it's just too complicated. I think the other two are in different categories which have their own problems.

As for Ashildr's future, I can't possibly comment - yet!

Oh, and Russell hasn't disclosed his theory, only that it exists!

Edited at 2015-10-18 12:43 pm (UTC)

Posted by: daniel_saunders (daniel_saunders)
Posted at: October 18th, 2015 01:24 pm (UTC)
Leekley

Yes, you're right, of course. I tend to black out Robot of Sherwood because it's just too complicated. I think the other two are in different categories which have their own problems.

I confess I liked them a lot more than some of the 'serious' episodes e.g. Deep Breath, Inside the Dalek, Dark Water/Death in Heaven.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 18th, 2015 11:23 pm (UTC)
MummyIcon

Mummy was my favourite story of the last season; and In the Forest of the Night has a bad press which is undeserved.

Posted by: thanatos_kalos (thanatos_kalos)
Posted at: October 18th, 2015 10:53 pm (UTC)

I'm certain I saw an interview-- the Children of Earth DVD extra, maybe?-- where RTD says that he saw Frobisher as killing off the last of Caecillius' line. So fixing the ripple, perhaps. And there were lots of TW analogies in 9.5: givfing someone immortality when in an emotional state (e.g., Jack's immortality) the death of a child who's also been hooked to a machine (though the Doctor didn't seem to realise this ahead of time, unlike Jack who intentionally sacrificed his grandson), immortality as everyone dying around you (Jack again) and the death of someone you can't bear to live without (arguably Ianto).

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 18th, 2015 10:55 pm (UTC)
Torchwood

I could say more, but am embargoed. ;)

OK, I will - I was burned by comments last week and didn't observe that Ashildr is resurrected with Jack's sudden intake of breath reflex, but of course it was quite deliberate!

Edited at 2015-10-18 10:56 pm (UTC)

Posted by: thanatos_kalos (thanatos_kalos)
Posted at: October 18th, 2015 11:31 pm (UTC)

::g:: Very true (& different from Rex's resurrection in Miracle Day).

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 18th, 2015 11:43 pm (UTC)

It's also been suggested to me on Facebook that the Doctor as yet doesn't know about Frobisher so doesn't know how that ripple played out and what his face might mean... interesting stuff.

Posted by: thanatos_kalos (thanatos_kalos)
Posted at: October 18th, 2015 11:59 pm (UTC)

hmm...very interesting...remembering in the wrong order, in a way?