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Mandy is back!

October 3rd, 2008 (09:55 am)
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Or so say the BBC:

Mandelson to return to government

The heralded return of Margaret Beckett now looks as though it will happen in the New Year, if at all...


edit: Why mention it? Echoes of a time when New Labour seemed to have a lot of large personalities around, which has not been the case in recent years.

edit 2: Margaret Beckett is back after all, as Gordon Brown's enforcer, so the BBC say. emily_shore will be pleased.

edit 3, 1322hrs: The Times, The Guardian and The Daily Telegraph have all been reporting that Liam Byrne is the new Cabinet Enforcer, not Margaret Beckett, despite what the BBC say; The Guardian now think Margaret Beckett might be going to the Lords, which would lead to a difficult by-election in Grantham - but the government is looking more bullish than it did a few hours ago, so Gordon Brown might want to bring it on.

edit 4, 1327hrs: The Daily Mail's Ben Brogan thinks that Margaret Beckett is getting the housing portfolio - an odd appointment, as it's at minister of state level. Earlier in the day someone suggested that Jon Cruddas might get it.

edit 5, 1336hrs Grantham? What am I talking about? Derby South, I meant...

Comments

Posted by: malaheed (malaheed)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 09:32 am (UTC)

Intersting. Especially As Levy in his book made the allegation that it was believed that Mandelson was the one spreading rumours about Brown being gay.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 09:35 am (UTC)

I'd not heard that, but it doesn't surprise me.

Posted by: malaheed (malaheed)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 11:26 am (UTC)

If you want I have the episode of Have I Got News For You in which they discussed this with Alan Duncan. well, while Alan Duncan refused to comment.

Posted by: wellinghall (wellinghall)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 11:55 am (UTC)

Oh, yes, I remember that one.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 12:10 pm (UTC)

I'd like to see that at some point, yes.

Posted by: malaheed (malaheed)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 04:46 pm (UTC)

Remind me sometime I do have a copy of it

Posted by: wellinghall (wellinghall)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 10:06 am (UTC)

Another story I read recently is that after the famous lunch at Granita, Gordon Brown had to go and have a proper meal.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 10:07 am (UTC)

I could see Gordon Brown's allies spreading that one...

Posted by: Naraht (emily_shore)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 09:36 am (UTC)
polt-MB

Mandy! And Margaret Beckett! How fantastic! Why not mention it? :)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 09:39 am (UTC)

There are gerbils dancing in heaven this morning.

Posted by: Naraht (emily_shore)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 09:43 am (UTC)
polt-MB

There are indeed. Now I need a Bring Back Mandy icon. :)

Posted by: Andy (alitalf)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 11:38 am (UTC)

EEK! He looks like one of the less honest and trustworthy members of a ruling class, at least most of whose members I wouldn't buy a used car from.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 11:42 am (UTC)

This is indeed a man who has had to leave the government twice. Derek Draper has just denied that Peter Mandelson can be considered a 'master of the black arts' on BBC News.

Posted by: malaheed (malaheed)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 04:48 pm (UTC)

Politics' answer to Harold Shipman.

Posted by: Naraht (emily_shore)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 12:40 pm (UTC)
polt-MB

Were you thinking about Margaret Thatcher when you said "Grantham," by any chance? :)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 12:46 pm (UTC)

Not consciously! I think the confusion came from her old seat having been Lincoln.

Posted by: wellinghall (wellinghall)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 02:04 pm (UTC)

Grantham is, among other things, my home town.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 03:37 pm (UTC)

I didn't know that...!

Posted by: wellinghall (wellinghall)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 03:40 pm (UTC)

Yes indeed. I was born there, and it was, to some extent at least, my "home town" (although I lived some ten miles away) until I went to Uni; and after, on visits to my parents. They still have a Grantham postal address.

Before Maggie came along, it was known as the place that Nicholas Parsons came from.

Posted by: philmophlegm (philmophlegm)
Posted at: October 6th, 2008 05:05 pm (UTC)
Duncan Edwards

My Dad was born in Grantham too.

Posted by: wellinghall (wellinghall)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 01:47 pm (UTC)

Who needs news websites when you've got parrot_knight ... ? ;-)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 03:43 pm (UTC)
UK_politics

I'm very rusty where politics is concerned. I didn't study it at university because I don't think politics starts in 1867, as it did in the Oxford course (I'm sure I recall ladyofastolat suggesting 1649 a long time ago) but it did mean that I became more removed from current affairs as I bounced off into the middle ages and then the eighteenth century, where I stuck.

Posted by: romancinger (romancinger)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 06:12 pm (UTC)
roman food

In my innocence, I had assumed that politics has always been with us. For the last few years, I've found it quite amusing to find parallels in current situations with Ancient Rome. These days the knives are, of course, figurative.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2008 06:18 pm (UTC)

You are quite right about politics always being with us - I slipped into course language (in its way a coarse language, too) without thinking. Old habits, etc.

Posted by: philmophlegm (philmophlegm)
Posted at: October 6th, 2008 05:07 pm (UTC)

From memory, the second P in PPE starts in 1880, as far as the core British Politics and Government module is concerned.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 6th, 2008 05:08 pm (UTC)

Mine was from memory also, though you actually studied it and I didn't!

Posted by: philmophlegm (philmophlegm)
Posted at: October 6th, 2008 08:51 pm (UTC)
NewWorldOrder

According to the university website, it's 1900, but it may have changed in the 17 years since I did it. I certainly don't remember writing any essays that were pre-1900, but as ever, that may just have been because of what my tutor was into.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 6th, 2008 08:53 pm (UTC)

It's certainly changed in the last 17 years - last time I looked History ended in 1979 rather than 1964, and as from this week there is a borrowing section of post-1945 books in the History Faculty...