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The eleventh Doctor is...

January 3rd, 2009 (06:15 pm)

...Matt Smith. I was sceptical when gervase_fen mentioned the possibility this morning, but all soon became clear.

Back now to John Adams, possibly the best historical drama I've seen...

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Posted by: calliope85 (calliope85)
Posted at: January 3rd, 2009 06:21 pm (UTC)

...I sorta know him. He was at the local ex-Boys' Grammar when I was at the ex-Girls' Grammar. A friend of mine did A-Level drama with him, and I went to several of their plays. I am currently having difficulties processing this.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: January 3rd, 2009 07:02 pm (UTC)

It really collapses the distance, doesn't it?

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Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: January 3rd, 2009 10:50 pm (UTC)

There is always something to be concerned about regarding the casting of a new Doctor. Smith's demeanour during the interview suggested to me that he is sufficiently distant from Tennant to avoid being seen as a clone; though I am worried that it will be difficult to cast older actors alongside him, simply because of his lack of experience, an affliction which compromised Peter Davison's Doctor on occasion.

Posted by: Penny Paperbrain (pennypaperbrain)
Posted at: January 3rd, 2009 07:22 pm (UTC)

Blimey. I can only think that Timelords age backwards towards puberty.

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Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: January 3rd, 2009 11:01 pm (UTC)

There's certainly an assumption in some media quarters that maturity means that everyone should go around asserting their sexuality all the time, whereas a couple of generations ago more self-control was assumed...

Posted by: Naraht (emily_shore)
Posted at: January 3rd, 2009 09:46 pm (UTC)
dw-Where's Jack?

You know, I think you're right. Bah humbug.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: January 3rd, 2009 11:08 pm (UTC)

I think he could be very interesting to watch, and hold the attention of the audience. I am tempted to read into the casting an anxiety about holding on to the younger end of David Tennant's demographic, but that might be overly cynical of me.

Posted by: Naraht (emily_shore)
Posted at: January 4th, 2009 12:18 am (UTC)
xf-She wants to

No doubt he could be interesting to watch... actually I know nothing about the actor, but I'm willing to take that on faith. If anything, though, I think you're insufficiently cynical about the demographic-aiming aspect of this decision. I can't imagine that they'll ever again cast someone as old as Hartnell.

It just seems as if they're not willing to push the envelope at all with this one. Another young white male. Eh.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: January 4th, 2009 12:26 am (UTC)

That no-one as old as Hartnell will be cast again has been a given, as far as I'm concerned, for as long as I can remember.

Smith is a lot younger than Tennant, and this is an envelope-pushing decision. Much will rest on how his Doctor is conceived - will he draw attention to his youth, or be indifferent to it, or instead emphasise the age Moffat or Wenger claimed to see behind his eyes?

Posted by: malaheed (malaheed)
Posted at: January 3rd, 2009 10:13 pm (UTC)

How long before Dr Who becomes Dougie House MD

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: January 3rd, 2009 11:18 pm (UTC)

I'm sure that there is an element who would have liked Neil Patrick Harris to be the Doctor - those for whom Kinky Boots recommended Chiwetel Ejiofor might have wanted his Emcee from Cabaret inside the TARDIS...

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: January 3rd, 2009 10:53 pm (UTC)

...which suggests that the twelfth Doctor will be found among the kids in the background in the next Harry Potter film, or from the next-but-three cast of Skins.

Posted by: sammee42 (sammee42)
Posted at: January 3rd, 2009 08:47 pm (UTC)

Well, he's definitely cute, but doesn't have the geekiness and quirkiness of Christopher Eccleston or David Tennant. Seems to be too much of a pretty boy. As for John Adams, yes, that's a brilliant mini-series. I love HBO!

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: January 3rd, 2009 11:22 pm (UTC)
US_politics

I don't know - I think he's quirky, but perhaps too obviously so in the interview. Still, he's already demonstrated his range in several different roles, and I look forward to seeing how his Doctor evolves on screen.

John Adams reminds me of the sort of television drama Britain used to make, except with more money, time and care, and a more polished script than, for example, 1975's Edward the Seventh. Like John Adams, it was a dramatisation of a biography, but could be much more stilted. I'd only seen Paul Giamatti in Sideways, and his Adams is a very different character.

Posted by: gervase_fen (gervase_fen)
Posted at: January 4th, 2009 12:52 am (UTC)
lizbp

Of course, the next question is going to be ~ who will be the new assistant? I'm hoping for Sheridan Smith, having really enjoyed her two hour long on-screen audition on New Year's Day.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: January 4th, 2009 01:13 am (UTC)

I've yet to catch up with Jonathan Creek - too busy watching the last Geraldine McEwan Marple, whose main entertainment was in recalling as much as possible from the Joan Hickson one, looking up a synopsis of the novel, and seeing how much ITV bothered to retain from the latter.

Posted by: gervase_fen (gervase_fen)
Posted at: January 4th, 2009 01:23 am (UTC)
owls

I saw a little of that, enough to get the hint of the feeling that it was Richard E Grant's audition for the lead role!

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: January 4th, 2009 01:24 am (UTC)

I was surprised to find that Raymond was a Christie character, just one that didn't actually appear in this book...

Posted by: Susan (lil_shepherd)
Posted at: January 4th, 2009 12:54 am (UTC)

I also think that Matt Smith's looks are quirky, and he seems a reasonably intelligent and, what little I have seen of him, a highly competent actor. Davidson (a personal favourite) was only a few years older when cast.

Isn't John Adams great?

Blimey! Two things we agree on. What is the world coming to?

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: January 4th, 2009 01:33 am (UTC)
US_politics

John Adams seems determined to buck every negative stereotype of American culture ever thought of - for one thing, it is self-critical without being self-flagellating, and for another, it dramatises the distinctiveness of the American revolutionary experience without self-congratulation or jingoism. Adams isn't as familiar figure as other revolutionary leaders of the period, either, necessarily, which helps. Every performance I've seen has been pitched appropriately, and the period settings appear just right, in a way which British producers seem to care about less and less these days.

So much about Smith's Doctor will rely on context. Who will his companion be, for instance? Will Moffat move the series on from the Doctor perpetually angsting about the Time War and his 'Lonely God' syndrome?

We did agree about Journey's End at the end of the last series of Who, for the most part...

Posted by: Susan (lil_shepherd)
Posted at: January 4th, 2009 08:45 am (UTC)

I had exactly the same experience with John Adams, in that I knew less about him than I did about Jefferson, Franklin and Washington, but melodyclark with whom I have a sort of mutual admiration society from our Blake's Seven fan days, actually runs a website about him that was set up well before both the TV series and the biography on which it was based.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: January 4th, 2009 12:27 pm (UTC)

Good for melodyclark - I like this sort of endeavour. I wonder how many late US presidents have websites? Probably more than British prime ministers (not an exact comparison, I know) though I did discover a Robert Walpole fan site once.