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Angels and Demons

May 25th, 2009 (11:24 pm)
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There's not very much to say about this film, other than that it clearly takes place in a parallel universe; a 'progressive' pope called Pius XVI has just died, and the name Pius will probably be associated with reaction for some time, I fear... The film has more than its fair share of experts who keep having to ask basic questions, and one wonders why Robert Langdon (a generally good performance from Tom Hanks, though with some odd mannerisms which might be intended to show reserve) doesn't have a guidebook to use as reference as he makes his peregrinations around Roman churches.

Some good special effects, though, in what I'll call the helicopter scene; and there's a moment where one fears the plot is going to turn into Hadrian VII.

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Posted by: Virgers! How are we doing with those explosives? (tree_and_leaf)
Posted at: May 25th, 2009 10:50 pm (UTC)
Church Paramilitant

other than that it clearly takes place in a parallel universe; a 'progressive' pope called Pius XVI has just died, and the name Pius will probably be associated with reaction for some time, I fear...

Any sign of a Romulan space ship mucking about with the time lines?

there's a moment where one fears the plot is going to turn into Hadrian VII.

Is it bad that I would be immeasurably more likely to go and see it if it did?

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: May 25th, 2009 10:53 pm (UTC)

No signs of a Romulan spaceship; though Obi-Wan Kenobi is of course present, and certainly believes the force is with him.

I think that a sub-Rolfean ending would have been unbearable! Hadrian VII itself, however...

Posted by: philmophlegm (philmophlegm)
Posted at: May 26th, 2009 10:14 am (UTC)
4cats

The book's not brilliant either (and as you know I really liked its sequel, The da Vinci Code).

Not that tempted to go and see the film. I'll wait for it to come on telly I think. Does the film still feature CERN's own super-plane? Always thought that was a bit odd.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: May 26th, 2009 10:35 am (UTC)

No sign of a CERN super-plane.

I'd not realised that Angels and Demons comes first in the Langdon sequence of books; the film is a sequel to The Da Vinci Code, which I've neither read nor seen, as a Holy Blood and the Holy Grail purist.

Posted by: philmophlegm (philmophlegm)
Posted at: May 26th, 2009 12:24 pm (UTC)
NewWorldOrder

I love the idea of being a purist about THBATHG! I've read both (and am convinced that the law suit between the authors of that book and Dan Brown was pure publicity stunt given that they had the same publisher).

The Priory of Sion thing is perhaps my all-time favourite hoax. I think you could make a pretty decent film about the creation of said hoax, perhaps starring Gerard Depardieu as (an admittedly rather heavier) Pierre Plantard.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: May 26th, 2009 03:26 pm (UTC)
Troughton

Of the three THBATHG writers, Henry Lincoln would have nothing to do with the court case; he distanced himself from Baigent and Leigh, who continued to churn out THBATHG spin-offs, several years before the trial.

Somewhere, on VHS tape, I have a piece from The Late Show about the Rennes-le-Chateau 'mystery' which introduces Lincoln as 'the creator of the Yeti from Doctor Who', complete with a clip from 'The Abominable Snowmen'.

Posted by: widsidh (widsidh)
Posted at: May 27th, 2009 06:16 pm (UTC)

In the wake of this film, I've finally started to read the Da Vinci Code. There is quite a lot of reference to events of Angels and Demmons at least in the first few chapters (as far as I've got).

The plot is starting to draw me iin, but I find the clunky exposition is really irritating. if Angels an Demons is less good, i think I won't even try. especially now I know the ending...

To be fair to the film though, it was an enjoyable night out, although the televison version will no doubt have the advantage of leaving room for shouting at the screen merrily ;-)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: May 28th, 2009 11:25 am (UTC)

I think it got better once the setting-up was out of the way, and once one could concentrate on the pursuit of the symbols across Rome.

I suspect that Dan Brown might be fun in the way I used to find Jeffrey Archer novels enjoyable - imagining what a better writer might have done with the plot and filling in backstories myself which Archer had just taken for granted or didn't think necessary.

Posted by: widsidh (widsidh)
Posted at: May 28th, 2009 12:41 pm (UTC)

I think it got better once the setting-up was out of the way, and once one could concentrate on the pursuit of the symbols across Rome.

Agreed. And it looks like he Da Vinci Code is going the same way (I'm now about a quarter in, and it's picking up pace).