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April 29th, 2011 (08:16 am)

The English heralds have struck again, and it's Cambridge. Still, this commemorates the Queen's paternal grandmother's family, and St Andrews people can celebrate their dominion over a slightly older university. Strathearn is there, but as an earldom. Chalfont syndrome, perhaps, as explained in my reply to a comment by [personal profile] pellegrina on an earlier post.

Watching BBC now. First technical failure: Edith Bowman's big moment, and no-one heard her report from St Andrews. Simon Schama as historian talking about "mergers and acquisitions", today as a resolution to the disaster of 1981, and remembering 1947 and sweet rationing.

ETA: www.antipopes.org/charlie/blog-static/2011/04/making-news.html , recommended by gervase_fen.

Comments

Posted by: Pellegrina (pellegrina)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 08:54 am (UTC)
cat scorn

What disaster of 1981? The heir to the throne being dishonest to his bride? I think that started sooner.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 02:06 pm (UTC)

That specific marriage itself...

Posted by: philmophlegm (philmophlegm)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 11:55 am (UTC)
Flag

Having vowed to watch on Sky rather than BBC, despite having to put up with Kay Burley and missing out on Simon Schama, I was forced to switch when the Sky commentator called Prince Albert of Monaco "Prince Rainier".

I figured - "Look, I clearly know more about European royalty than you do, so that renders your commentary somewhat pointless."

To be fair, the BBC coverage has been very good. Huw Edwards was a very good choice.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 02:07 pm (UTC)

He has been good, only stumbling once that I remember; and better than David Dimbleby has been on recent occasions.

Posted by: ooxc (ooxc)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 07:38 pm (UTC)

That's interesting - I confess that I didn't know that Rainier wasn't the family name - I thought that it was as if a Monacan called Prince William "the Windsor prince", which, while unorthodox, wouldn't be inaccurate

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 08:00 pm (UTC)

The family name of the Monegasque princely house is Grimaldi (unrequested information).

Posted by: widsidh (widsidh)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 08:56 pm (UTC)

Posted by: ooxc (ooxc)
Posted at: April 30th, 2011 08:16 am (UTC)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 30th, 2011 01:21 pm (UTC)

Posted by: The Two Trees (arda_unmarred)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 03:46 pm (UTC)
Telperion

here in Scotland it's business as usual for many people - I am writing this from work. I walked through the whole centre of Edinburgh just 90 minutes before the wedding of a half-German with an unemployed woman* began and you wouldn't know anything was on.

*the above suggests I dislike royalty: I do not. They are harmless, unlike most of the ruling elite. I just think it's ironic that had Middleton been an ordinary woman living in a sink estate and struggling to find a job (or, worse, a single mother on benefits) then she'd be called a scrounger by the very people who are the staunchest supporters of royalty. But because she is rich it's ok that she does sod all.

Posted by: ooxc (ooxc)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 04:26 pm (UTC)
dragon

What makes you say that she does sod all? Either you don't live within ten miles of where she lives (as I do) or you are making uninformed assumptions - or both. The main reason that we have been able to preserve their privacy is that we don't discuss what she does
I got annoyed with the BBC commentator who said that it was unrealistic to expect that they could continue to live quietly here. Now, I begin to see - we might have to choose between protecting their privacy and defending them against accusations from people who know nothing about how they live. Also - what would happen if we did discuss what she does - might she then be accused of taking a job that she doesn't need from someone who does need it?

Posted by: The Two Trees (arda_unmarred)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 05:34 pm (UTC)
Telperion

the best solution is for the government and the media to stop attacking people who have fallen on hard times - like the single mothers and the poor

then people like me won't feel the need to question the patchy employment record of many of those at the top. As I've said, I have nothing against her and have no real interest in the details of the Royals' lives (much like I had no interest in the charles-diana saga). It's just amazing how those at the top always get the benefit of the doubt and those at the bottom get the opposite.

in any case, I don't believe there is any reason for someone's employment record should be kept private.

Posted by: ooxc (ooxc)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 07:56 pm (UTC)
dragon

The best solution is for people to recognize that employment records don't mean anything in terms of what people "do"
i didn't say that employment records should be kept private - i said that anyone who lives ten miles away from a certain person is more likely to know whether or not it's true that she does nothing, than those who don't live there
I also said, and reiterate, that, where there is high unemployment, it can be more valuable to work unpaid and without record than to take paid work away from those who need it

Posted by: The Two Trees (arda_unmarred)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 10:18 pm (UTC)

Posted by: ooxc (ooxc)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 10:36 pm (UTC)

Posted by: The Two Trees (arda_unmarred)
Posted at: April 30th, 2011 12:38 pm (UTC)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 30th, 2011 02:57 pm (UTC)

Posted by: The Two Trees (arda_unmarred)
Posted at: May 1st, 2011 10:59 am (UTC)

Posted by: philmophlegm (philmophlegm)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 06:12 pm (UTC)
Flag

This exiled Welshman is flying both British and Welsh flags from his upstairs windows. Nice to see a ddraig coch* here on LJ.



* Or should that be ddraig goch? I'm not great on mutations...

Edited at 2011-04-29 06:12 pm (UTC)

Posted by: widsidh (widsidh)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 09:16 pm (UTC)
saltire

Draig Goch, or with Welsh definite article, Y Ddraig Goch.
(or more officially, I believe, Baner Cymru "banner of Wales").

Posted by: philmophlegm (philmophlegm)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 09:47 pm (UTC)

Posted by: widsidh (widsidh)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 09:55 pm (UTC)

Posted by: ooxc (ooxc)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 10:39 pm (UTC)

Posted by: wrong but wromantic (sally_maria)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 11:29 pm (UTC)

Yes, or of using her connections to get the job - even though everything I've seen indicates that she's an able young woman with a degree from a well-respected university, who would otherwise be considered a perfectly valid candidate for the job on her own merits.

Unfortunately, I think it's one of those situations in which they can't win.

(Has a certain amount of understanding because my aunt lives on Princess Anne's doorstep, and I know some of the ways in which she is protected as part of their community.)

Posted by: ooxc (ooxc)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 11:34 pm (UTC)

Posted by: wrong but wromantic (sally_maria)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 11:42 pm (UTC)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 30th, 2011 12:03 am (UTC)

Posted by: The Two Trees (arda_unmarred)
Posted at: April 30th, 2011 12:52 pm (UTC)

Posted by: wrong but wromantic (sally_maria)
Posted at: April 30th, 2011 02:52 pm (UTC)

Posted by: The Two Trees (arda_unmarred)
Posted at: May 1st, 2011 11:32 am (UTC)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 30th, 2011 02:54 pm (UTC)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 11:59 pm (UTC)
George_III_at_Kew

That particular commentator was the most annoying of the lot, I thought, and seemed to assume that what obtained in the 1980s with Diana would inevitably continue with Kate in the 2010s... It ain't necessarily so, as the song says.

Posted by: The Two Trees (arda_unmarred)
Posted at: April 30th, 2011 01:08 pm (UTC)

Posted by: ooxc (ooxc)
Posted at: April 29th, 2011 04:08 pm (UTC)

So the technical failure wasn't only local - thank you - i thought that it was a security thing on the island!