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Advent calendar

December 1st, 2006 (10:49 am)
current music: John Renbourn: 'Morgana'

Joy to the world! It is December, and I have started the process of opening the windows on my Doctor Who advent calendar. I have become the recipient of a piece of chocolate embossed with a Dalek, and faced the question "Which captain did the Doctor and Rose meet in London in World War Two?"

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Posted by: The Mezzo Mongoose (miss_next)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 11:04 am (UTC)

Excellent. :-) I nearly bought a Pirates of the Caribbean Advent calendar for Mole, but they weren't on sale individually (it was two for £3) and I couldn't think of anyone who would also want one.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 11:38 am (UTC)
salmon

We live in a startling new age of merchandising, which makes George Lucas look like a poor man's John the Baptist. I reflected on this as the advent calendar's barcode was swept and the £2.99 added to my supermarket bill.

Posted by: wellinghall (wellinghall)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 12:07 pm (UTC)

I was reading a collection of essays about Tolkien recently, which commented on the startling growth of film-related merchandising from "Gone with the Wind", through "Star Wars", and into "The Lord of the Rings".

Posted by: wellinghall (wellinghall)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 11:33 am (UTC)

In my day, advent calendars came with little pictures behind the windows!

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 11:36 am (UTC)
parrot

...as in mine! Presumably the youngsters need to be fed somehow.

Posted by: bunn (bunn)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 11:38 am (UTC)

hmph. Little pictures are all very well, but would you, could you, *really* spurn a chocolate dalek???

Sometimes the Future is a Good Thing.

My advent calendar is a self-proclaimed ethical fair trade one. I suspect it may contain chocolate goats. I'm trying not to think about the whole 'people are living in mud huts so here is an extravagantly wrapped chocolate goat' thing that is rumbling along under the surface there...

Posted by: helflaed (helflaed)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 11:40 am (UTC)

Ah but your purchase will enable them to aquire a superior mud hut. I like fair trade- not least because the chocolate is such good quality....

I daern't get a chocolate advent calander thoug as my children would devour the lot on 1/12 if not before.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 11:47 am (UTC)
salmon

I like fair trade chocolate too - the Co-Op do some good varieties, as do Divine (possibly the same people who make chocolate for the Co-Op).

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 11:46 am (UTC)
arthurelaineletr

Sometimes the Future is a Good Thing.

I agree with that, despite the emotional pull of nostalgia. My purchases of old Doctor Who fanzines (an activity which I gather is seen by some as quintessentially parrot_knightish) have reminded me (with some prompting from a comment viala_qilarre made in conversation) that for all the creativity in the fanzines the 1980s were a time when people could play power games with their access to the video circuit and ownership of rare pirate tapes. Nowadays one can just visit doctorwho_eps, among several other places, and find what one is looking for, quite apart from all the commercial releases.

I don't think I'd spurn a chocolate goat, but the packaging and commercialisation of charitable endeavour in this form feels worryingly of a piece with the aggressive badge-wearing professional fundraisers one meets on a high street.

Posted by: bunn (bunn)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 11:57 am (UTC)

Bit of a distinction there: it's not a charitable endeavour, it's a self-proclaimedly ethical business: not at all the same thing but often presented in an almost interchangeable way. Which is, I agree, not right somehow.

If it makes you feel more normal in your purchase of fanzines, philmophlegm acquires Traveller material in languages he can't even read, and has recently begun the worrying trend of collecting material that isn't actually Traveller, but was a 'close competitor that never quite got off the ground'...

Posted by: wellinghall (wellinghall)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 12:06 pm (UTC)

I don't know about parrot_knight, but that makes me feel a bit better about my obscure Tolkien collecting habits ;-)

Posted by: Adilo Creamon (the_marquis)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 03:19 pm (UTC)
Books

I'm saying nothing...

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 03:07 pm (UTC)

I should have recognised the distinction between a charity and an ethical business; I agree that it is a problem that the ethical businesses boast of their ethical behaviour as part of their business strategy as if they were charities.

I don't mind not being normal in my pursuit of fanzine material, it's the question of how misplaced my idealization (qualified) of the Doctor Who fandom of the early 1980s might be that exercises me.

Posted by: Delia (chainmailmaiden)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 01:18 pm (UTC)

I got Bacchus a fair-trade one as he doesn't consider any advent calender 'proper' unless it has chocolate in it. I never considered it might contain chocolate goats, that would be fun!

I also had to fill the pockets of the perpetual advent calender with sweets last night. When I bought it for him a couple of years ago I thought it would mean I could just use that every year. However it's not just the chocolate that is important according to him, it is also the opening of the door. I suspect this is a ruse to simply get more chocolate...

Posted by: philmophlegm (philmophlegm)
Posted at: December 2nd, 2006 12:12 am (UTC)

If that's your attitude, I won't buy you one next year.

(Actually, Bunn only got one of her own so that I could have my Lindt one all to myself...)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: December 2nd, 2006 01:16 am (UTC)
arthurelaineletr

I understand entirely the wish to monopolise a Lindt advent calendar...

Posted by: Delia (chainmailmaiden)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 01:12 pm (UTC)

My Mum still sends me one with little pictures & that is suitably religious, chocolate ones are not 'proper' according to her. She will be disappointed to hear that this year, while the front has a nativity scene on it, the pictures inside are decidedly secular - today's being a gift-wrapped present.

Posted by: wellinghall (wellinghall)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 01:14 pm (UTC)

My Mum seems quite happy to buy her grandsons chocolate ones nowadays - but then, that does seem to be all there is!

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 03:09 pm (UTC)

There were secular pictures in several when I was a child, but we tended to have religious ones, probably because I think they were bought by my grandmother.

Posted by: viala_qilarre (viala_qilarre)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 01:26 pm (UTC)

Was that Captain Sparrow then?

Posted by: helflaed (helflaed)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 01:29 pm (UTC)

Captain Hook surely?

That was the episode with the strange ticking noise- oh no- that was Versaille not London.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 03:10 pm (UTC)

I sense a three-way crossover in the works...

Posted by: gervase_fen (gervase_fen)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 07:03 pm (UTC)
hem

I'm looking forward to the Torchwood advent calendar, with chocolate weevils, chocolate pterodactyls, chocolate hearts, chocolate carjack victims, and the chance to open up the same door all over again three days later.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 07:18 pm (UTC)
parrot

- but what about when you open day eight and find the self-same chocolate you'd eaten on day one, resurrected?

Posted by: gervase_fen (gervase_fen)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 07:38 pm (UTC)
lizbp

Well, it would compensate for the aftertaste of rose petals on day five.

Posted by: helflaed (helflaed)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 08:13 pm (UTC)

Three way crossover- now that DOES sould like Captain Jack's sort of thing!

Posted by: viala_qilarre (viala_qilarre)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 09:20 pm (UTC)

Not recently! Very disappointing lack of Jack 'action' in Torchwood!

... I'm hoping they're going to make up for this in the last few episodes.

Posted by: helflaed (helflaed)
Posted at: December 1st, 2006 10:42 pm (UTC)

I get the impression that if they had overdone the whole shagging thing that it would have spoiled it.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: December 2nd, 2006 01:17 am (UTC)
arthurelaineletr

I have the sense that Jack is going to be brought more to the forefront in the last few episodes.