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Doctor Who filming in Cardiff last week

March 5th, 2007 (12:49 pm)

I take it that many people will have seen this footage of Messrs Tennant and Barrowman and Ms Agyeman, but if not, here's the YouTube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrtnEnoEOeg

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Posted by: viala_qilarre (viala_qilarre)
Posted at: March 5th, 2007 12:54 pm (UTC)

Yes, already seen it - but how exciting! There are so many plot and personality threads to be brought together when Jack meets the Doctor again. They all look very cute together, too. Doctor Who is real eye candy these days, for both sexes.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: March 5th, 2007 07:39 pm (UTC)
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The last three episodes of the new series are going to be the most anticipated of the lot, I think, despite the attractions of 'Daleks in Manhattan' and 'Human Nature' (and what will lead up to the Doctor undertaking the sacrifice that story entails? There's a challenging character arc coming up, I hope.)

As for the physical attractions of the stars - if you want to know, Freema was prettier as Adeola, and I don't think her make-up as Martha is always flattering; but I'll see what she's like on screen properly before making a judgement.

Posted by: viala_qilarre (viala_qilarre)
Posted at: March 5th, 2007 07:48 pm (UTC)

I've not actually read Human Nature, though it's been impossible not to pick up the general gist of it on the forums in the light of the news that the TV episode is to be an adaptation. I certainly won't read it now, since I try to avoid spoilers. But from what I've half-understood about it, it sounds intriguing, and very Doctor-centric.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: March 5th, 2007 07:53 pm (UTC)

It's going to be interesting to see how it's brought off. I remember describing the plot to my sister, many years ago; she thought it over-involved and against the spirit of the television series as she remembered it or thought it should be. I think the original alien race have been replaced. Have you seen the picture of Tennant in an early twentieth-century tweed suit and bow tie, with Jo Whiley? The clothes should please those who think the Doctor's present outfit too contemporary, though they would probably find his companion a bit jarring.

Posted by: daniel_saunders (daniel_saunders)
Posted at: March 5th, 2007 09:42 pm (UTC)
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I'm afraid I'm dreading Human Nature, having strongly disliked the book, despite the strength of the central ideas (although they are less strong after the TV Movie and the RTD era). I really liked Father's Day, so I was quite happy when it was announced Cornell had a two-parter this time around, but then the rumours that it was Human Nature started and I gave up hope.

As for what might provoke the Doctor's actions, some of RTD's comments about the Jones family's 'arc' in the DWM preview of Smith and Jones have made me wonder about on-coming family tragedy for Martha.

I think Paul Cornell is perhaps the 'trendy vicar' of the fan authors: some inoffensive, and therefore philosophically shallow and question-begging, preaching; some pop cultural references; a few jokes that I don't find funny; and not much else.

To be honest, after watching the whole of series two a second time, I'm feeling rather disappointed with new Who. I greatly enjoyed all bar the first and last episodes on first transmission, but few stories held up on a second viewing, which seems damning in the era of more or less immediate DVD releases and a constant loop of repeats on BBC3.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: March 5th, 2007 10:54 pm (UTC)

I too have found series two thinner than I would have liked as it's become more distant; the alleged subtlety of David Tennant's characterisation of the Doctor was lost, and the character arc concerning the fragility of the relationship between the Doctor and Rose was overstretched and possibly muddled. I'm more likely to rewatch a series one episode.

I like Human Nature the novel, but not as much as general opinion seems to. It may be less skilled than his later work, but I still prefer Timewyrm: Revelation for its enthusiasm and the energy with which it blew away the cobwebs of 1980s Doctor Who.

Posted by: daniel_saunders (daniel_saunders)
Posted at: March 5th, 2007 11:07 pm (UTC)
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the alleged subtlety of David Tennant's characterisation of the Doctor was lost, and the character arc concerning the fragility of the relationship between the Doctor and Rose was overstretched and possibly muddled.

It wasn't just the character arc that seemed flawed. Most individual episodes seemed lacking in depth of any kind second time around, and full of plot holes and contrivances. Oddly, I think I appreciated Tennant more on re-viewing than I did originally.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: March 5th, 2007 11:25 pm (UTC)
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There are plot holes, true; and I have wondered whether David Tennant was playing against the script regarding the Doctor's attitude to the loss of Rose. I felt that the removal of Rose from his life, as played, was something the Doctor knew he would have to accomplish himself at a moment of crisis. He was putting the pieces in place early on, placing the possibility of meeting 'our' Jackie in Pete's mind; the option of encouraging Rose to stay with them must have been there. He's doubtless heartbroken at losing her all the same.

Posted by: viala_qilarre (viala_qilarre)
Posted at: March 6th, 2007 09:12 am (UTC)

It seemed clear to me that the Doctor knew perfectly well he was going to have to give Rose up at some point, and probably some point soon. It's made explicit in School Reunion that he has to adopt that fatalistic attitude towards all his companions. Not that he enjoys it - but I bet he soon gets over it. I seriously don't think that there will be much mooning over Rose in the upcoming series.

Posted by: viala_qilarre (viala_qilarre)
Posted at: March 6th, 2007 09:09 am (UTC)

No, I haven't seen that picture. Do you have a link?

(Some of the recent episodes - probably the ones I've enjoyed most - might once have been thought against the spirit of the TV series :) )

Posted by: Dewi Evans (wonderwelsh)
Posted at: March 6th, 2007 02:59 pm (UTC)

I agree with you about Freema's make-up. Also her hair. But she looked very fetching in some of the photos from the Smith and Jones preview in this month's DWM.

Then again, I'm hardly an expert.

Posted by: wrong but wromantic (sally_maria)
Posted at: March 5th, 2007 07:19 pm (UTC)

I hadn't seen it - so thank you very much.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: March 5th, 2007 07:49 pm (UTC)

Good, isn't it? I wonder whether it really is the end of the episode (or at least, of Jack's involvement in the episode) as most fans think; it could easily be the beginning, after the events of 'Utopia', with Jack apparently being returned safely to Cardiff, only for events to take an unexpected turn...