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Doctor Who 3.11: Utopia

June 16th, 2007 (10:07 pm)

I need to see the episode again, as a family party has been going on and the children with whom I watched it don't follow the series (though their grandmother does), but my early thoughts can be found in a comment at the excellent gervase_fen's journal.

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Posted by: Virgers! How are we doing with those explosives? (tree_and_leaf)
Posted at: June 16th, 2007 09:34 pm (UTC)

I had a similar problem; particularly annoyed by the American who kept proclaming that it was 'crap' and that it 'looked like it was made in the sixties' (to which I say, "Bzuh?")

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: June 16th, 2007 11:17 pm (UTC)
DavidIcon

Alas and alack. I was going to write that one must feel sorry for the benighted souls who make such comments; but I'd like to think that an argument could be made to somebody (avoiding a ranty argument with, I hope) explaining that the style of the programme is as much an artistic decision as one enforced by budget; and what was wrong with the sixties anyway?

Posted by: zephyr (vescoiya)
Posted at: June 16th, 2007 09:55 pm (UTC)

One question for you o knowledgable one.

Who's the Master?

*Waits to be relieved of who ignorance*

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: June 16th, 2007 10:31 pm (UTC)
regeneration

This is a good Wikipedia article which explains things well. Most fans seem to find Roger Delgado's portrayal definitive.

Posted by: gervase_fen (gervase_fen)
Posted at: June 16th, 2007 10:25 pm (UTC)
owls

Can I just say thanks ever so much for the traffic? It's been wonderful, almost like having a viewing party.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: June 16th, 2007 10:31 pm (UTC)
Arthurian Logo

I'm glad that you don't mind...

Posted by: philmophlegm (philmophlegm)
Posted at: June 16th, 2007 11:17 pm (UTC)
I'vegotasportscar

It seemed rather like a prologue to me (bit of a Mission to the Unknown). That's okay I suppose. I'd have loved the twist at the end if I hadn't already been exposed to the spoiler months ago. I've been trying ever so hard to protect Bunn from that spoiler since Life on Mars ended. We were talking about how great a LoM / Who crossover could be and she started googling!

Still, the episode does include one of my all-time favourite Who lines - see my brand spanking new userpic!

Posted by: helflaed (helflaed)
Posted at: June 17th, 2007 11:13 pm (UTC)

I loved that line too- not least because I got the distinct impression that by Timelord standards, the TARDIS was more of a Morris Minor....

I had suspected that Harold Saxon would be the Master, but I thought it would be bodily posession rather than The Master actually being a Timelord bodily as well as mentally.

I really didn't figure it out until I saw the "watch". I honestly thought that Professor Yana was somehow mutating into a futurekind when he kept hearing drums, voices etc.

I wonder exactly when it was that the Doctor realised who the other Timelord was- when the Master opened the watch, or when the Doctor got into the room and saw him, face to face. He certainly did seem to realise that there was something wrong.

Roll on next Saturday- or Dr Who day, as my little darlings now call it. They are going to be bereft when the series finishes.

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: June 18th, 2007 12:57 pm (UTC)

"I really didn't figure it out until I saw the "watch"."

Neither did I - though I have now forgiven them for the slightly heavy handed introduction of the Chameleon Arc (my only real niggle about Human Nature), they had to make sure everybody remebered :-)

"I wonder exactly when it was that the Doctor realised who the other Timelord was- .... He certainly did seem to realise that there was something wrong."

I think from his reaction to the existence of the watch and the suggestion that here may be the other survivor("depends which one", he suspected straight away which other timelord would be resourceful enough to save his skin in that particular way...

BTW, I was a bit unimpressed by the regeneration scene. It made sense for what had happened Christopher Ecclestone's Doctor, but here the Master had been shot...
And BTW again, Derek Jacobi was (unsurprisingly) excellent - pity he did not have another episode or so in that role!

KT

Posted by: Penny Paperbrain (pennypaperbrain)
Posted at: June 17th, 2007 02:11 am (UTC)
Torchwood Jack

Hmm. I was annoyed by Jack. They turned him into a caricature of himself. I'm sure he didn't used to be letching/admiring his own body ALL the time.

Posted by: Naraht (emily_shore)
Posted at: June 17th, 2007 08:19 am (UTC)
Where's Jack?

Eh, you may have a point. But WhoJack is so much better than TorchwoodJack that I really don't mind...

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: June 17th, 2007 05:59 pm (UTC)

Radio Times has an interview with John Barrowman, including a short discussion of the difference between the two, and the reasons behind them.
I wonder what he will be like once he gets back to Torchwood (I suppose he will, given that there is going to be another series...?).

KT

Posted by: gervase_fen (gervase_fen)
Posted at: June 18th, 2007 12:36 pm (UTC)

...but will Captain Jack be back in Cardiff in time for episode one?

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: June 18th, 2007 12:48 pm (UTC)

Good question.

Though JB does not know when he'll be back in Who, so I suppose he'll get back quite soon.

Do you think he will need rescuing ;-)

KT