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I looked at a flat on this street once

October 3rd, 2007 (03:52 pm)

Woman, 26, killed in crossfire - on John Williams Close, New Cross.

The feature of the street which I most remember is the landscaping, which was amphitheatrical and suggested to me that the rubble of the stands of the old Millwall football ground, where John Williams Close was built, hadn't been moved so much as grassed over.

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Posted by: Alice Dryden (huskyteer)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2007 03:49 pm (UTC)
Alice Street

Perhaps I'll postpone my planned visit to the New Cross Gate Sainsbury's this evening.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2007 07:03 pm (UTC)

I don't think that there will be a gunfight in the aisles, or outside it. I used to walk there from Glastonbury Court on Farrow Lane almost every day.

Posted by: Adilo Creamon (the_marquis)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2007 03:52 pm (UTC)
so so

I suspect that this view will be unpopular but given rise in the numbers of "accidental" deaths (or collateral damage as the gangsters might have it) and murders I'm very much in favour of bringing back capital punishment as the risk of the hemp fandango (or a modern cheaper equivalent) may make some of these twerps think twice both about carrying and using knives and guns. Life shouldn't be as cheap as some thugs seem to think and frankly I think the anti-campaigners of the 50s and 60s overestimated how nice we as a race can be to one another. Co-workers in the past have said how it would be that they hardly dealt with murder at all yet more recently its reached the point that if asked about a murder case the question is "which one?"

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2007 07:03 pm (UTC)

I don't think that capital punishment will make very many think twice, sadly.

Posted by: Adilo Creamon (the_marquis)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2007 09:13 pm (UTC)
usg1

Probably not, but my cynical side says but it will make some of them stop carrying guns.

Posted by: Polly (jane_somebody)
Posted at: October 6th, 2007 05:11 pm (UTC)
hands

I agree with PK that it is unlikely to make a difference, especially in the case of gangs, since quite frankly they have already shown themselves to be undeterred by the risk of death - I suspect gang members are far more likely to be shot by other gangsters than they would be to be hung by the law. Also, capital punishment hasn't noticeably made the US murder rate lower than that of the UK.

This is quite apart from issues such as the potential for the police/jury to make mistakes, and other reasons for not being in favour of capital punishment.

Posted by: wellinghall (wellinghall)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2007 08:45 pm (UTC)

For a moment I was unnaturally worried that my friend from uni who lives in New Cross might be the woman. Then I read the story, then I read that she was only 26.