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Doctor Who XXXII.1: The Impossible Astronaut

April 23rd, 2011 (07:54 pm)

A brave and bold change of pace, with a surprisingly backgrounded Doctor nevertheless projecting a persona combining elements of Kenneth Williams and Hugh (or even Richard E.) Grant, which is arresting and annoying by turns. Intriguing too, though one wonders about the wisdom of leaving so much to be explained next week.

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Posted by: nineveh_uk (nineveh_uk)
Posted at: April 23rd, 2011 07:39 pm (UTC)
Master

I must admit I ended the episode DEEPLY confused. But I enjoyed it.

(Also, it has presumably been posited that River Song is in fact the Master?)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 23rd, 2011 09:07 pm (UTC)

I've not come across the idea that River is the Master, at least not seriously. Opinion on the Gallifrey Base forum seems very mixed, though the negativity wasn't being borne out by the polling scores which are high if not overwhelmingly so. The overnight ratings will be interesting. My ten-year-old first cousin once removed A was complaining last weekend that there needed to be more variety in storytelling. I think he'll be pleased by this one, but what he'll make of one element of the double cliffhanger I have no idea.

Posted by: daniel_saunders (daniel_saunders)
Posted at: April 23rd, 2011 10:07 pm (UTC)
Me

Someone must have suggested she's the Rani. There's a whole bunch of people out there who suggest every female character is the Rani.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 23rd, 2011 10:29 pm (UTC)
ArgueMainly

There are probably people out there who think Rory is the Rani. Come to that, there's someone who argues Doris is Sergeant Benton.

Posted by: widsidh (widsidh)
Posted at: April 25th, 2011 02:01 am (UTC)
Liz & Pertwee

I don't think River as the Master or the Rani would work, as neither is likely to do what she does in her first/last episode (can't remember the title, part 2 of the Silence in the Library story).

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 25th, 2011 09:43 am (UTC)

Forest of the Dead; and no, I'm sure River is a distinct character, because the pay-off for her being someone we already know couldn't be anything but anticlimactic.

Posted by: daniel_saunders (daniel_saunders)
Posted at: April 23rd, 2011 10:11 pm (UTC)
Me

I really liked it. It seemed in some ways unrecognisable from the latter days of Russell T Davies, despite a very soapy revelation near the end (assuming that's what it appeared to be on the surface).

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 23rd, 2011 10:44 pm (UTC)

Indeed. After reading strange_complex's post I wondered whether this is a phantom pregnancy inspired by the Silence - and I'd not registered that River complains of being sick too.

Posted by: Rachel Coleman (rmc28)
Posted at: April 23rd, 2011 11:46 pm (UTC)

Not only does River complain of nausea, her physical reactions are very similar to Amy (at least Amy's first bout is like River's first bout, both don't have any symptoms until after they see things). They've got the same thing, but I have my doubts that it's pregnancy.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 24th, 2011 12:02 am (UTC)

Circumstances of viewing meant that I missed a lot of detail, evidently. There was an odd edit in the Oval Office scene which made me wonder whether the Silence were active there... and Moffat is also playing with 'an alien made me pregnant!' tropes, as I believe The X Files once indulged in.

Posted by: Adilo Creamon (the_marquis)
Posted at: April 24th, 2011 07:26 pm (UTC)
B5-2

I haven't seen it, nor any Who since .... ages ago but I've seen odd snatches and wonder is there much chuntering on t'internet about River Song's name and what it may mean?

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 24th, 2011 10:59 pm (UTC)

If there is, I've not really noticed it. Any theories?

Posted by: Adilo Creamon (the_marquis)
Posted at: April 25th, 2011 10:51 am (UTC)
stars

I was wondering if there was some word play or significance to her name. River as a first name is odd (to me), and so is it playing with River Phoenix? Or is it an image like the river of time? Maybe its a subtler clue like 'river song' meaning the tune 'Old Man River' because of her reappearances and possible longevity; or a river of songs signifying the 'songs of our ancestors' (sorry just re-read Sir PTerry's 'Nation' so that one struck me).

Edited at 2011-04-25 10:52 am (UTC)

Posted by: widsidh (widsidh)
Posted at: April 25th, 2011 12:22 pm (UTC)
Liz & Pertwee

I have come across River as a first name just about often enough to not find it odd anymore, but I am also covinced that in this particular case, it has significance...

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 25th, 2011 12:24 pm (UTC)

All I can offer is that Mr Moffat likes his water features...

Posted by: widsidh (widsidh)
Posted at: April 25th, 2011 11:22 pm (UTC)
Liz & Pertwee

...leaving so much to be explained next week.


In a recent conversation, someone suggested that it will probably take till autumn for everything to be explained.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: April 25th, 2011 11:44 pm (UTC)

I'm certain that the bigger picture too will only be filled in by the autumn - and goodness knows what will be left until next year (if next year happens).