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August 4th, 2012 (02:26 pm)
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  • The Naked and the TED
    • A somewhat vicious swipe from Evgeny Morozov in The New Republic at some recent publications under the TED imprint, with a side order of Niall Ferguson-bashing. I know very little about the subjects under discussion. Nevertheless, I share the reviewer's lack of enthusiasm for the sort of technocracy which he thinks is being peddled.
  • The next Lord Raglan
    • I know nothing of the late Arthur Somerset (1950-2012) beyond that he was a leading events manager and that he was disinherited by his uncle, the 5th Baron Raglan, and so would not have inherited the family estates in south-east Wales. Nevertheless he would have inherited the peerage, had he lived; and the next Lord Raglan will apparently have the untraditional forename of Iggy.

Also posted at http://sir-guinglain.dreamwidth.org/529882.html.


Posted by: inamac (inamac)
Posted at: August 4th, 2012 06:41 pm (UTC)

Oona-Vita?!!! (I assume she is female and therefore not likely to inherit - but what a magnificent name! Well on a par with some of the Victorian peerage.)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: August 4th, 2012 07:11 pm (UTC)
Charles II

The branches which don't inherit often have the longest names, as if to concentrate for absence of title - an extreme case is the branch of the Tollemaches (Barons Tollemache; sometime earls of Dysart) which produced names like Leone Sextus Denys Oswolf Fraudatifilius Tollemache-Tollemache de Orellana Plantagenet Tollemache-Tollemache; and while the 21st Lord Dunsany is plain Plunkett, his Dorset-based kinsmen, descended from a younger brother of the writer the 18th Lord Dunsany, rejoice in the surname Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax (though the present head of that branch goes by Drax in day to day life).

Yes, Oona-Vita's name is apt compensation for the barony of Raglan being limited to heirs male.

Edited at 2012-08-04 07:11 pm (UTC)

Posted by: wellinghall (wellinghall)
Posted at: August 4th, 2012 07:45 pm (UTC)

I am familiar with those names through long reading of the Guinness Book of Records :-)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: August 4th, 2012 08:25 pm (UTC)

There's also Lord Oriel, whose surname is the complicated Foster Whyte-Melville Skeffington, with only the Whyte-Melville hyphenated. Similarly, for one generation the marquess of Lansdowne's surname was Mercer Nairne Petty-Fitzmaurice.

Posted by: philmophlegm (philmophlegm)
Posted at: August 4th, 2012 08:58 pm (UTC)

"Fraudatifilius" would be a great name for a forensic accountant.

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: August 4th, 2012 09:01 pm (UTC)

'Son of the cheated', so Wiktionary tells me. If not a forensic accountant, it might be a good alias for their client.

Posted by: daniel_saunders (daniel_saunders)
Posted at: August 5th, 2012 10:24 am (UTC)
Eleventh Doctor

Once again I am reminded of Monty Python, specifically the sketch about the Central European artistocrat with the incredibly long name, which I assumed was just a piece of silliness...

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: August 5th, 2012 11:28 am (UTC)

I don't know that sketch, but randomly looking up early twentieth-century Habsburgs does reveal very long name strings...

Posted by: daniel_saunders (daniel_saunders)
Posted at: August 5th, 2012 11:13 am (UTC)

Tried reading the Morozov article. My response: "What?!" I have no idea what he is on about, except that he doesn't like anything, especially the books in question. When he says, "The Demise of Guys gives a Daily Mail column as much credibility as a peer-reviewed paper." I have no idea if he means that The Demise of Guys makes the Daily Mail look like a peer-reviewed paper or that The Demise of Guys actually quotes a Daily Mail column as if it were a peer-reviewed paper. He criticises TED authors/speakers for "firm and arrogant" political views then in the same paragraph criticises TED's "decidedly non-political attitude". Weird. Pointing this stuff in my direction only fuels my growing dislike of contemporary journalism :-)

Posted by: parrot_knight (parrot_knight)
Posted at: August 5th, 2012 11:45 am (UTC)

A man with a good few axes to grind, certainly. I assumed the second of your interpretations of his Daily Mail comment.

I'd assumed that it was possible to hold political views while projecting a non-political attitude, and that this was what was being discussed, but perhaps I was too generous.